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« on: June 27, 2008, 11:24:43 PM »

Thanks to the recent US Supreme Court decision that proclaims the Second Amendment is alive and well thanks to the commitment of those who supported the appeal, I feel we need a new holiday,
              HAPPY HELLER DAY, June 26, 1008    

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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2008, 01:33:25 AM »

That's a great idea, Ed.              Happy Heller Day to you!!!

Set your countdown clocks, mark your calendars, and make your reservations for the gun range early.

Hallelujah!!   We got us a new holiday.

The decision came as a surprise to most people. It could have gone the other way, sadly. Scalia's majority opinion left very little wiggle room for future challenges. The court dispelled all arguments on the issue before them. The defense argued that the founding fathers were only thinking in terms of the right to arm a militia, but that could not have been possible without a militiaman having his arms at the ready. That and other arguments just would not have made sense at the time. And, the purpose of guaranteeing the right to keep and bear arms to defend against a tyrannical government still exists.

The decision has already prompted the filing of suit against several major cities today. Hallelujah!!
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2008, 04:24:52 PM »

Just in case anyone is wondering what the heck this new ruling has to do with knives, let me point out that the reports pertaining to a Supreme Court decision, majority and dissenting, are the supporting documentation that explains all of the considerations that were made in the decision making process.

References to prior decisions made in the Scalia majority opinion make it an historic document itself. Following is just one reiteration of established legal description that pertains to owners of knives:

{quote}

?Arms.? The 18th-century meaning is no
different from the meaning today. The 1773 edition of
Samuel Johnson?s dictionary defined ?arms? as ?weapons
of offence, or armour of defence.? 1 Dictionary of theEnglish Language 107 (4th ed.) (hereinafter Johnson).
Timothy Cunningham?s important 1771 legal dictionarydefined ?arms? as ?any thing that a man wears for hisdefence, or takes into his hands, or useth in wrath to cast
at or strike another.? 1 A New and Complete Law Dictionary
(1771); see also N. Webster, American Dictionary
of the English Language (1828) (reprinted 1989) (hereinafter
Webster) (similar).

{unquote}
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There are many references including dirk, sword, warlike instrument etc. that make it clear what the intent of the Second Amendment was.

The point I make is that although this decision addresses specifically a law in Washington , DC pertaining to guns, it further confirms that the "right to keep and bear arms" includes knives, and other edged weapons.

Knives are in no way excluded from the protections of the Second Amendment.

Future challenges to existing laws pertaining to cutlery will be strengthened by this decision.

Finally, I'll make my point in another way. This decision was 5-4 in our favor. We were one Supreme Court appointment away from the decision going against us. Remember that when you vote next time for a President. If the decision had gone the other way, a push to take arms out of the hands of the public would already be underway. As "arms", knives would be subject to confiscation right along with guns.
 
For a complete copy of the reports (pdf) :

http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/07-2901.pdf
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2008, 02:59:26 PM »

Sorry have not been around much .
Yes this was a great day.
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