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: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 04, 2014, 12:06:51 AM
I think it was about 15 years that I have been searching for a Little giant hammer.
It is a quest.

I searched in all the places I knew to look, but no one knows what I'm looking  for, and the people that know what one of these things is  dont have any idea where I might find one.

last weekend I almost found one....18 hours away by car, and a lot more money that i was willing to spend.
I fooled around and lost time before I called, but finally i decided that I would call only to learn it was sold.

Then yesterday I got another hint where one was sitting and i made a few calls and this weekend I go see what shape its in ....I will have plenty of folding money to give to the owner if I think its in good enough shape.


I'm very excited, and nervous.
I want to tell  the people I know what a big deal this is for me, but no one would "get it".

i will post some photos this weekend....
I have no idea what shape its in....I have no idea if its broken, or if its ready to turn on...

I do know its a Little Giant 25# hammer.....and I know I'm 56 years old, and have been looking for one of these things for 15 years and I also know I do not want to turn 65 years old and still not have a power hammer.....

So on Saturday i going to take a swing at getting it, and we shall see how it goes...


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Daniel Rohde (D-Vision) September 04, 2014, 12:39:51 AM
great I hope it work out for you! a 25lb should be great to have around...how does one move a thing like this?
Daniel.


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 04, 2014, 01:48:38 AM
I talked to the guy who owns it today about the "move".....

Now I have no knowledge as to what it is like to move, but the guy said we can just tip it into my pickup and lift it in.

we shall see...



: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Joe Calton September 04, 2014, 04:25:54 AM
good luck with the little giant!!!!!

I would hate to have to move my home built 50lb hammer, it weighs around 1200 pounds. I have pretty good arms, but not that good, would need to tear it apart to move it, or rent a forklift and weld on tabs to jack it up to get the forks under it.


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 04, 2014, 10:33:43 AM
see i have no real idea what im getting into.
The guy tells me it should be no problem, but I dont know.

I have no idea what im going to do with it even if I get it back to my yard?
I think I can get a front-end loader from where I work to get it out of my truck bed....I hope the guy Im going to see about buying it from him has a loader or something to put it up in my truck too...

We shall see.

The thing I am warned is old and rusty....Im not at all aware of how these things even work.
I dont know how to clean them up and get them running.
I have never actually seen a power hammer up close, I have only seen this one from about 50 to 75 feet away.
I looked about 5 foot tall or so....and parts of it looked kinda heavy.


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Ed Fowler September 04, 2014, 01:53:59 PM
Your little giant 25 pound power hammer will weigh around 870 pounds. I suggest that you haul it laying down in your pickup. Take enough blocks (short pieces of 2x4 or 2x6's will work' to cradle it. A friend and I loaded a 50 pound hammer 1,650 pounds) in my pickup using 2 handy man jacks and lots of cribbing, a block and tackle and worked carefully. Just use your head and have fun with it.

If you find someone with a loader to help you lift it, hook your chains to the frame and be sure and tape the hooks to the chain with duck tape.

Google Little Giant power hammers and you will learn a lot.


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Daniel Rohde (D-Vision) September 04, 2014, 03:28:24 PM
here are some places to start looking at:
you mite at least see them running to get a feel for how they work
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=little+giant+power+hammer (https://www.youtube.com/results?q=little+giant+power+hammer)

http://www.littlegianthammer.com/ (http://www.littlegianthammer.com/)

https://smartflix.com/store/video/6920/Rebuilding-the-Little-Giant-Power-Hammer (https://smartflix.com/store/video/6920/Rebuilding-the-Little-Giant-Power-Hammer)


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Ed Fowler September 04, 2014, 05:01:46 PM
That second video is the one you what with Harlan Seudemeier, he is the top man when it comes to working with Little Giants.


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 05, 2014, 12:44:39 AM
based on your posts I have a concern, so I will have to email the owner and see what he thinks?


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 05, 2014, 09:15:52 AM
is there a way to bolt a small sheet of plywood to the legs?


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 07, 2014, 01:01:56 AM
Im back home safe....

Left the house at 7:00 this morning, drove 4 and1/2 hours to get to the location.
It was another 4+ hours to get home, never going over 50 mph the whole way...


But it was WORTH IT!

For in the bed of my pickup there is a Little Giant 25#  hammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Ed Fowler September 07, 2014, 01:54:16 PM
Congratulations!


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Daniel Rohde (D-Vision) September 07, 2014, 09:08:39 PM
SWEET!! Were are the pictures ;)?


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 07, 2014, 09:45:38 PM
as for the photos?....I tried to post them but it keeps saying the file is too big...

I will ask my wife to give it a try....Im very much not very good with computer stuff....


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 09, 2014, 12:24:08 AM
Im not sure the name of it, but that 2nd  flywheel that is behind the one in the front is now  able to turn.It was rusted stuck but after lots and lots of oil I got it able to turntonight.
 
Now is there some trick to knowing if the front  flywheel is able to turn?....how would I turn it as it seems very stiff/stuck right now....


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 09, 2014, 01:31:09 AM
https://www.facebook.com/events/1483242445278106/?context=create&ref_dashboard_filter=upcoming&source=49 (https://www.facebook.com/events/1483242445278106/?context=create&ref_dashboard_filter=upcoming&source=49)


I was unable to post any photos here on the forum, so I took some time and made a facebook page where you guys can come and have a look...

Please go check out the many photos so you can tell me what this or that is, and what I need to do next...


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 09, 2014, 01:43:45 AM
the long drive home after I got the Hammer loaded into the bed of my truck was scary....but the real scary part came the next day when my friends and I tried to unload the hammer in my shop.

The idea I had was to place a few planks up in the rafters, then use a chain hoist to lift the hammer up enough to drive the truck away.
The problem was that once the truck was out of the way the chain hoist jammed and the hammer was stuck several feet in the air!

I have a video posted that shows what this looked like https://www.facebook.com/events/1483242445278106/?context=create&ref_dashboard_filter=upcoming&source=49 (https://www.facebook.com/events/1483242445278106/?context=create&ref_dashboard_filter=upcoming&source=49)

.....very dangerous...


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 09, 2014, 10:29:09 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10696212_10202775221486132_6280619631254932982_n.jpg?oh=4c4156adea81dbd6b87edccc36d5945e&oe=549B3323&__gda__=1418981015_0a984db2e8e620c94da3307b892e1133


The link above is to a photo of my hammer.
But I am not sure it gets you to the photo?....could you  check as if it takes you there I  then have a good means to continue talking about my Hammer and dealing with issues with you guys....


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 09, 2014, 10:33:29 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10599332_10202770002795668_8760332646804709467_n.jpg?oh=e90bbff82379da9d5652795105ca02f6&oe=54947158&__gda__=1420002573_6fbb8fc60ac5773cc994d12fad34885f

This might be a photo of what the hammer looks like now completely dripping in oil ...
Does this photo show up when you click on it?

if  after you click on it you do see a photo of my Little Giant  25# Trip hammer, then I will draw your attention to the large round wheels at the top of the hammer.
There is a wheel in the front that is connected to the linkage that makes the hammer go up and down, and then there is another large wheel in the rear that is connected to the front wheel by a shaft of some type...

Because everything was sitting outside for 15 years there was plenty of rust on everything, but last night I was able to oil up the wheels and did manage to get the back wheel to turn with a pipe wrench.
The front wheel is a different matter.

Im not sure they turn by hand?...do they?

Is there a way to loosen up the wheel to help the oil soak-in and lube the parts that need to turn?

should a working hammer be able to turn the front wheel by hand?


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Ed Fowler September 09, 2014, 02:47:04 PM
It looks to be a nice hammer.
Is that a crack in the sow block below the bottom die?

You can loosen the caps than secure the crank shaft, this will make it easy to turn the fly wheel by hand. I would pull the caps, (be sure and mark them so you can replace them exactly as they came off), clean up the crank shaft and wipe crud out the babbet. this should clean it up. You should clean the clutch pulley also.

Look here for more information: http://www.littlegianthammer.com/resources/Parts%20Diagram.pdf (http://www.littlegianthammer.com/resources/Parts%20Diagram.pdf) 


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 09, 2014, 05:12:33 PM
Where do I get new dies?


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 09, 2014, 10:07:20 PM
Ed, so Im on the same page:

There are 6 bolts and nuts that run along the top of the hammer.

2 are behind the back flywheel and 4 are between the front and back flywheels.

I can remove all 6 bolts and nuts correct?

The bolts seem to be holding together the top and bottom halves of the covering that goes around the crankshaft.

There seems to be some type of gasket between the two halves of the covering.

to clean the crankshaft i will need to split apart this bolted together covering.

there is also a bolt on the "clutch cover" that must be removed to take it off to get the covering off.



: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Ed Fowler September 10, 2014, 03:11:45 PM
Yes you have to remove the 6 bolts, be sure and mark the covers so you can get then back exactly as they came off.
I do not know what you mean by clutch cover, mine does not have one. You may be talking about the clutch collar, it will lift out of the clutch fork when you raise the shaft.


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: jared williams September 10, 2014, 07:47:36 PM
Unless everyone helping you is pretty short it looks to me like you have a 50lb. hammer. measure the flywheel. if it's 10" you have a 25lb. hammer if its 13" you have a 50lb. hammer. my recent purchase of an LG consisted of them listing it as a 25lb. hammer but upon inspecting it, it was a 50lb. You can buy the dies from Syd at little giant.


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 10, 2014, 11:40:45 PM
i have to race home now and find out!

is there an advantage to a 50?


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 11, 2014, 12:23:27 AM
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10690176_10202784528438800_5269839114964051947_n.jpg?oh=eca4c1b726916396f940fa3a6f2d8cac&oe=5498718A


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 11, 2014, 12:26:29 AM
as seen in the link/photo above...the front flywheel is a good 13"inches wide!

I am not sure what this means to anything...but clearly I got a 50# Little Giant Power Hammer and not the 25# that I thought.

Its also interesting that the guy who sold this to me was very sure it was a 25#, although he pointed out that it simply does not say anywhere on it what it  is....

So...is this a big deal with it being a 50# hammer over a 25#???


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Daniel Rohde (D-Vision) September 11, 2014, 12:36:26 AM
is there an advantage to a 50?
there a little more popular I would say. they hit a little harder just because there is more weight behind the blows so they move metal faster


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 11, 2014, 01:14:49 AM
money-wise?.......


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 11, 2014, 01:41:18 AM
I would like to replace the dies....I would love to get the onesi saw on the web that are half flat and half rounded....

anyone know what they are called?


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 11, 2014, 10:39:31 AM
Ok.....an update of sorts...


Last night after work I raced home to check on the Hammer's mesurments and to my surprise found it did measure a  solid 13"inches and from what I'm told here this means it is not a 25# as both myself and the guy who sold it to me believed.
Its interesting to now understand i own a 50# hammer...I have not looked at many videos dealing with the use of a 50#er and so Im a bit shocked by this develement.

Anyway, I was able to remove (after marking location) all 6 nuts and bolts.
The rear cover came off easy, the front cover came off with a bit of turning of the front flywheel to provide room.

Underneath I see the shaft now, and its all totally rusty and wet....Im thinking its wet from the ton of oil I have been dumping on the hammer?...but regardless i also see a ton of crud on the insides of the clutch and all that area that must be cleaned.

Tomorrow I will begin cleaning the 15 years of crud off the inner parts, and I will also use light sand paper to shine up the shaft.
Lots of cleaning to do, and Im thinking I could use my air-compressor to blow away things that I dig out with a scrapper.

On Friday I hope to start looking around at all the stores in the town for new/cheap motors....I think I have to get a 3/4 hp motor correct?






: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 11, 2014, 10:42:19 AM
on a side note:

I have a question about painting the hammer:


Everyone I show the hammer to always asks what color Im going to paint it?

I have not given this much thought, however all the YouTube videos that show  Little Giant hammers working always show the hammer as painted,,,,,,mostly red or green too it seems.

If I do decide to paint it, I have to clean off all the oil that i have been dumping on it correct?

Is painting it a thing that matters?....does it show Im taking good care of the hammer?


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Daniel Rohde (D-Vision) September 11, 2014, 03:28:45 PM
Is painting it a thing that matters?....does it show Im taking good care of the hammer?

I think it's largely a preference thing there usually covered in grease anyway so rust isn't to much of a problem. and personally I like the bare metal and I don't think you would be saw as abusing it just by not painting it....if you decide to paint it don't paint it pink!!(that WOULD be abusing it ;) ;D)

I'm not sure about the dies working on a little giant but just so you get an idea as to what you mite want http://bigbluhammer.com/quick-change-dies (http://bigbluhammer.com/quick-change-dies)


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Ed Fowler September 11, 2014, 04:23:28 PM
I have 1 hp motors, 1,750 prm motors and 2" two belt pulleys  on them. Get new belts for it while you are at it. You will have to wait for the belts until you have the motor mounted on it so you will know the size of belts you need. Get smooth belts, at least I like them the best.

The 50 pound hammers that I have seen were all painted green when they were made. Follow the instructions on the paint and you will do OK.


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 11, 2014, 04:40:55 PM
Wow....dies are a lot of money.....I got to find so used or something


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 12, 2014, 01:12:12 AM
tonight I finished the cleaning of the crud on the wheels and sanded all the rust and stuff off the shaft.
The wheels spin very smoothly now.
Tomorrow I will reassemble the shaft covers and that should be all I need to do to be ready to find a motor for it.


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 12, 2014, 08:37:53 AM
Question:  How should I move the 50# hammer?


i have to move it about 5 feet across the floor and turn it.

suggestions?


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 12, 2014, 08:41:12 AM
i see a lot of youtube videos where the hammer is dancing around....i want mine solid......but imay want to move it in the future to...

suggestions?


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: TKirk September 12, 2014, 01:18:50 PM
To move, use a heavy duty cherry picker (that auto mechanics use to pull engines)  we used a heavy nylon tow strap instead of a chain


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 13, 2014, 05:36:01 PM
I own a motor that says it spinning at 3600 rpm.

Is that too much ?


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 14, 2014, 12:49:00 AM
Ok...I got myself a 1hp 1700 RPM electric motor!

Now....

I know I have to use belts, and the guy who owned this hammer before me has it all set up to run belts around the clutch to a little table he has next to it.

But what size belt wheel/pulley?

a 3"inch....a 5"inch?


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Ed Fowler September 14, 2014, 05:15:43 AM
The pulleys on my 50 lb hammers all measure 2 1/2 inch diameter to the outside rim.
Get a double pulley to run two belts.


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 14, 2014, 04:37:56 PM
I got this hammerwith two belts already on it, but this morning I decided that I would go get new ones and take the other ones off...

Good LORD what a job!>>

They dont want to come off easy , thats for sure....


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 14, 2014, 11:43:20 PM
I have good news.....

I have been working to get the hammer going, and I will have videos to show how I did....

Stay tuned tonight for updates....


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 15, 2014, 12:48:14 AM
Sunday Night Video #1


https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202806502148129&set=o.1483242445278106&type=2&theater&notif_t=video_processed (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202806502148129&set=o.1483242445278106&type=2&theater&notif_t=video_processed)

the damn thing works!!!!


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 15, 2014, 12:56:25 AM
Sunday Night Video #2


https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202806562229631&set=o.1483242445278106&type=2&theater&notif_t=video_processed (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202806562229631&set=o.1483242445278106&type=2&theater&notif_t=video_processed)


I think I have reached the end of the project for this weekend.....


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 15, 2014, 01:06:16 AM
Sunday Night Video #3


https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202806588270282&set=o.1483242445278106&type=2&theater&notif_t=video_processed (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202806588270282&set=o.1483242445278106&type=2&theater&notif_t=video_processed)


not bad for me....considering the state of things on Saturday morning, I think I have accomplished a lot


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Ed Fowler September 15, 2014, 04:05:45 AM
Congratulations Alan! You have come a long way with your hammer. Once you decide where you want to put her, just put either a piece of plywood or heavy duty rubber mat under it, then bolt tight down to the floor and you will be set.

It will hit harder if you put more tension on the belts, that spring looks too light.

I have never seen one with groves on the clutch drive, I believe that is an old hammer. There should be a serial number on it, if you call Little Giant, they can tell you when it was made.


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 15, 2014, 08:27:38 AM
where is the number?


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Ed Fowler September 15, 2014, 02:08:33 PM
Somewhere on the frame of the hammer.


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 16, 2014, 10:33:29 AM
I have very limited amounts of free time during the work week, so I was lucky to be able last night to get the hammer moved to its final resting spot (or "close enough").

However there was a weird moment during the move.
I had a plan "A" going where I just ran a chain around the hammer and out the door to my truck and drag it, but when I did that I saw that the truck tends to lurch rather than pull the weight slowly, and after one rather wild lutch I looked up at the mirror and saw my hammer wobbeling back and forth wildly!

I had almost tipped it over!

So I got out the come-a-long and used it to slowly drag the hammer forward....

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202811887882769&set=o.1483242445278106&type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202811887882769&set=o.1483242445278106&type=2&theater)

I still would like it to be about 6" to the east, but I think I can do that when I jack it up to slide the rubber mat and plywood under it.


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 16, 2014, 10:40:02 AM
I got some vey thick plywood off the job site, but Im still looking around for some type of rubber or foam mat to go under the plywood.

I was looking for a type of horse mat, or perhaps a tire flap from off a big truck?

If I cant find anything free to use I may look at getting one of them mats that you stand on when you work in hard floors.


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 17, 2014, 11:19:07 AM
I will skip looking for a rubber mat and just try to find one or two more matching sheets of plywood for under the hammer... I also have been thinking of using an epoxy in the drilled holes to hold the bolts in position and not just hope the bolt's wedge will hold forever.

I plan to have a party to introduce my hammer to all my sword class friends on the weekend of the 29th....I hope I have everything all set to go by then!


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 20, 2014, 01:01:18 AM
I got it moved into its final position!
That was a battle.....but I took Ed's advice and got it rock in and danced with the hammer ...
I was able to lift the hammer one more time and slipped 2 cut sheets of plywood under her.

I will post updated photos soon


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 20, 2014, 10:10:17 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/q82/s480x480/16739_10202835703958156_5116270992658131053_n.jpg?oh=d874260ae49471d72c77ad3fc3097fd8&oe=5484CCFE&__gda__=1418373428_1a178c4243dc8ffd5e279b112063074e


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 21, 2014, 09:56:43 PM
I got my shop all cleaned up enough to fire up my gas forge and try out my Little Giant for the first time to work-out any bugs.

And....there were a few bugs...

The biggest issue is that my attempt to bolt the hammer with them redhead type bolts has totally failed.
The bolts pulled out right away.
This afternoon I removed all the bolts, and drilled the holes again , this time with a new drill bit, and then I have tried some epoxy to see how that will grab the bolts.

I will give the bolts the whole week to set...then tighten the nuts on Friday to see if this worked.
if this also fails, then I will likely just live with a hammer that rocks a bit.

on the up-side of things, i was able to forge abit on an old John deere load shaft I had left over from years ago, and I also did a little wiork with a cable and forged a blade out of it....
It was nice to get back to this art, but Im always re-learning things and how to do things again...


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Daniel Rohde (D-Vision) September 21, 2014, 10:27:02 PM
are you bolting the hammer to the floor(concrete floor) or just the plywood?


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: wnelson aka. dedox September 22, 2014, 02:35:47 AM
Will you ever forge some damascus?


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 22, 2014, 11:26:39 AM
Into the cement though two sheets plywood. .
Into cement 3 to 4 inches


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 29, 2014, 12:38:44 AM
I have held my first power hammer gathering for members of my sword class.
I had a few problems with the hammer...and I found it was a struggle to deal with some of the issues, but we had a lot of fun regardless.

I had a 1"inch cable that we forged as well as a smaller cable that I cut into smaller sections and made into a bundle that we forged.

The welding of the cable into solid bars went slowly, but then it was my first time doing this so that too was expected.


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan September 29, 2014, 12:51:55 AM
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202885628166230&set=vb.1368099679&type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202885628166230&set=vb.1368099679&type=2&theater)


My young friend had never done any work with hammer and steel before in his life...so it was fun to show him how to do things...


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Chad Huffstutter October 07, 2014, 03:13:17 AM
Lol, I waited awhile for my 50lbs'er and was excited. If you ship them freight you can bolt and chain it to a pallet. Getting it off the pallet could be a problem. Your suppose to mount the on fire hose material as a gasket. Also there is a suggested thickness of concrete under it, can't remember how many inches though. Getting it cleaned up, tuned or running can be pricey if you pay to have it done. There is a guy in Kansas(?) that bought the Little Giant company that you can get parts and a DVD that walks you through the process. Does it need a motor? eBay had some pretty cheap not to long ago. I'd really like to find 500lbs hammer to be able to work down thick steel. No clue how you move one of them.


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan October 12, 2014, 04:40:08 AM
now.....step #2

The forge!



last year I attended an event where a Japanese master sword smith made steel.

Later the guy talked to me about my own small efforts and he told me a few things to try.

He told me that if my arms are shot (they are) then I need to get a power hammer.

He also told me to think about switching to a real coal fire forge and not use gas.


At the time I believed he was just telling me things that would never happen.


But I ended up with my own power hammer a year later?????

.and so I have had to admit that perhaps the guy knew what he was talking about?


Well.....yesterday on the way home from work I stopped at a new friend's house, and while there I saw a coal forge under some crap in a corner that belonged to his grandfather.
I made an offer for it.....and he took it!

I had to fix the blower...and add new wires and a new switch....and I painted it....but damn, it works!
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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202984749484201&set=vb.1368099679&type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202984749484201&set=vb.1368099679&type=2&theater)






: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan October 12, 2014, 04:59:59 AM
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202984761804509&set=vb.1368099679&type=2&theater&notif_t=like (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202984761804509&set=vb.1368099679&type=2&theater&notif_t=like)


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan October 12, 2014, 05:04:27 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1622695_10202984621080991_6938212459614728764_n.jpg?oh=30ff42ab7ed393e2168bc4609ce13ef7&oe=54F70792&__gda__=1420719096_fbe92f2779f967e3b6601cc443f8e9ef


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan October 12, 2014, 05:07:46 AM
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202984761804509&set=vb.1368099679&type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10202984761804509&set=vb.1368099679&type=2&theater)


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan October 12, 2014, 05:12:35 AM
one discovery that some may find interesting.

The fire pot when i got it was thick with ash and burned coal chunks that looks very old.

When I got it home I used a wire brush to dig out the crap and learned that the fire pot was lined with some type of cement.

Then I tipped the forge on its side to dump out the ash and that is when i saw for the first time that the person who put in the fireproof lining added the date he did that...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10702131_10202984257751908_5763534068999879075_n.jpg?oh=ac0e5358839bc2b05b9a2838c28a9c63&oe=54F8B81E&__gda__=1425242187_078513fef1f7204a72d36c4e35391941


: Re: Its a Little Giant 25#....and its a quest
: Alan October 18, 2014, 12:51:36 AM
update,,,,,
https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10672309_10203023595855336_4005115894095767032_n.jpg?oh=562a2056977f03a261a32bf77e32ca06&oe=54F01673


I replaced just now the 1hp farm utility  electric motor with a 2hp compressor motor...

The new 2hp motor seems to get going from a dead stop a lot better...and its got a lot more power...


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