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: West Java blade
: Stef June 21, 2013, 07:12:22 PM
Hello,

This knife was made in a small village in West Java, Indonesia, about five hours drive from Jakarta.
It's a Makassar-style badik/golok.

Goloks are a type of weapon & indigenous tool used and crafted by people of east coast of Malaysia Peninsular. Golok has a distinct shape of little curvy at it sweetest spot " heavier section of it blade". Because of its length and shape, goloks are normally used for slaughtering animals or used for less demanding task than parangs.

This knife measures in at 18? in the sheath, which has a traditional attachment for tying the sheath to the belt. The handle is 5 3/8? and the knife is 17 3/8? on its own. The blade measures in at 12? with an 11? cutting edge, and is 3/16? thick. The balance point on this blade is 4? in front of the steel bolster.

I like it a lot because of the convex blade shaped like a leave. Simple timeless. Love it.


(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1496/kyzy.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/kyzy.jpg/)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img7/9913/5g5c.jpg)


Regards,
Stef



: Re: West Java blade
: Ed Fowler June 22, 2013, 02:38:07 PM
Very nice Stef: I love to look at ethnic knives that have remained true to their heritage. That knife look to be both practical for the area where it was made and could be used for many tasks. I would love to have a time machine to look back to her history and development.

Thanks for sharing


: Re: West Java blade
: Stef June 22, 2013, 05:49:15 PM
I do not have her history and development, but I have the making of a similar Golok by native old hands, from the piece of leaf spring to the wooden scabbard :

Golok making - part 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4023iyHeXA#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4023iyHeXA#noexternalembed)

Golok making - Part 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axKYvygczLk#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axKYvygczLk#noexternalembed)


: Re: West Java blade
: Ed Fowler June 22, 2013, 06:27:05 PM
That was absolutely beautiful! It is very rare we get to see an old hand working with the home made tools of a true craftsman.
While I would have liked to see how he did it before he got the grinder, watching him with a file I would imagine he could have done it well.

I wonder what he painted the blade with before quenching, looks like it may have been lead.

It is especially interesting watching him move the wood into his working knife, I have never seen that work before. Notice how his thumb and lower leg steady the wood, as precisely as any jig could do. His ability with a saw was also amazing, splitting a piece of wood that long as precisely as he did is truly an art.

Thanks again for sharing. It shows that a knife maker is only limited by his desire and fortitude.


: Re: West Java blade
: Stef June 24, 2013, 02:05:27 PM
Handle and scabbard maker :

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9202/f2kd.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/515/f2kd.jpg/)

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2958/3l4x.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/3l4x.jpg/)


A similar blade breaking bones :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mADcEzqWcRA#noexternalembed&feature=endscreen&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mADcEzqWcRA#noexternalembed)

Slaughtering (attention bloody video):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owEMuUyWt-g#noexternalembed&feature=endscreen&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owEMuUyWt-g#noexternalembed&feature=endscreen&NR=1)


Another maker - in part two you can see the heat treatment :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiOExDAlpKc#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiOExDAlpKc#noexternalembed)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdVkQlvBAns#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdVkQlvBAns#noexternalembed)


Traditional furnace (Parang - chopper) of the Bidayuh in Semban, Sarawak :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE0qVTdXY4Y#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE0qVTdXY4Y#noexternalembed)


: Re: West Java blade
: Ed Fowler June 24, 2013, 10:11:37 PM
Very nice work! Notice how carefully they manage the heat both in edge hardening and while forging. All forging I saw was low temp, there was very little slag while he worked and not much laying around the anvil.

These gentlemen are true craftsmen.


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